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    The arcmate 205 and this is my review of the machine

    Sorry that it has taken me so long to get to this, but, better late than never, i say.... i recieved my arcmate 205 and spoolgun 2 weeks ago. upon unpacking, i made sure that all was well, and it sat in my living room corner for about 2 weeks before i got a chance to tote it out to the shop. i hooked it up, plugged it in and made the SOP changes to the machine to get it compatible with the rest of my machines (shield gas and electrical hook ups)...

    the first thing i tried was 7018 overhead (since this machine is CC/ CV power source, i used all functions) it is very smooth running the 7018 rods. i then switched out to 5p and ran a 6g bead around some 10 inch pipe open root. i had to toy with the arc force adjustments to find the "sweet spot" but once i did....WOW! is all i gotta say about it... i dont have much room for smaw use in shop, so this will be more a dedicated MIG machine anyway, just sayin.

    it says on the site that this machine is only capable of a 10lb roll of wire, but that is incorrect, i put a 44lb roll of .035 er70s-6 wire in it for some serious welding. once i got the amperage curve figured out, i started melting metal....lottsa metal.... the machine welds wonderfully! albeit, i burned a few tips up on burnback, common tweeco style tips are a direct replacement. the mig gun is a little short and small for my likes, but that is just me (to each his own)

    i spun the dials WOT (wide open throttle for you non-gear heads) to see what she was made of, and i was surprisingly impressed. once the settings were figured and dialed in, myself and a buddy built a utility bed for a welding truck with it (pics to come later)

    my impressions of the arc and arc control... the machine produces a very dry arc, subtle and smooth, which is in direct opposition to the miller machine of the same size which has a very crisp and wet arc, turbulent and crisp puddle.

    as with the rest of the longevity line-up, the fan moves massive amounts of air, so we had to constantly turn the machine away from the work for blowing the shield gas out (how about that thermostatic fan controls?)

    all in all, after using miller machines for the better part of my life (and earning a living off from them for several years) i will soon be replacing my miller mig machines with longevity machines (with the exception of my engine driven and suitcase feeder, stand alone feeder, and the 50 ft push pull feeders)


    at a price that is almost half the cost of the same sized miller, i would easily and happily recommend the arcmate 205 to anyone looking for a 200 amp mig machine...

    for those that would be hesitant because of mig gun upgrades, the machines use a euro style quick connect on the mig gun, so just about everyone makes a replacement gun (ie... bernard, tweeco, binzel, cobra, and tregaskiss) so, you can still get your favorite gun and hook it right up.... just sayin...

    the one thing that i didnt like was it didnt have wheels.... but at the price, a person could afford to buy/ build a cart and still be money ahead...
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    Great write up! Thanks for your opinion, I value it.
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    Stan, nice review and added info
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    Quote Originally Posted by SICFabrications View Post
    my impressions of the arc and arc control... the machine produces a very dry arc, subtle and smooth, which is in direct opposition to the miller machine of the same size which has a very crisp and wet arc, turbulent and crisp puddle.
    For those of us who don't have a good grip on welding speak Stan is a dry subtle and smooth arc better than a crisp and wet arc? Good write up, can't wait to see the pictures.
    Replacing your Miller machines with Longevity for a professional top notch welder like you really speaks well for the Longevity machines, nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget View Post
    Stan is a dry subtle and smooth arc better than a crisp and wet arc?

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    depends on personal preference... as the longevity got up into the longer arc, it got a little more crisp, to be honest, i really dig the arc characteristics of the arcmate
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    nothing fancy, just a few hot glue guns for metal

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    Nice write up Stan. Hopefully, we can see some photos from your COOL sony camera. Thanks again and I look forward to seeing your work!

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    what kind of wire do you prefer on mild steel?

    i'll be finishing up the last roll of .035 Forney wire that i'll ever buy... i think i'm gonna try some Lincoln L56 .030, i've heard that the L56 wire was pretty good.
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    ive been using hobart certed content since they introduced the line.... ive used kobelco wire and also lincoln, but hobart wire is my fave
    Torchmate 5 x 10 custom built CNC table
    6 (each) Thermadyne 252i mig/ stick/ tig
    Thermal Dynamics a-60 automated cutter
    Thermal cutmaster 52 handheld cutter
    '07 pro300 miller
    '08 275 trailblazer miller
    '99 250 trailblazer
    12vs extreme suitcase feeder
    2 (each) xr-a 50 foot push-pull feeders (for aluminum mig)
    800 ton break
    400 ton shear
    MM350p
    xmt 304
    (do i REALLY need to keep going?)

    nothing fancy, just a few hot glue guns for metal

    www.sicfabrications.com

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    Planning on getting any vids of the welder in action?
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    soon.... all the stuff i have been doing lately has been non-disclosure jobs and have been a little more heavy steel than the 205 is capable.... the 250p and 303p have been bumpin n going hardcore tho..... alas, no vids tho..... had to sign a piece of paper stating that i would not take, post pics or even discuss materials or WPS either publicly or privately.... big money jobs like that, i cant afford to turn them down tho
    Torchmate 5 x 10 custom built CNC table
    6 (each) Thermadyne 252i mig/ stick/ tig
    Thermal Dynamics a-60 automated cutter
    Thermal cutmaster 52 handheld cutter
    '07 pro300 miller
    '08 275 trailblazer miller
    '99 250 trailblazer
    12vs extreme suitcase feeder
    2 (each) xr-a 50 foot push-pull feeders (for aluminum mig)
    800 ton break
    400 ton shear
    MM350p
    xmt 304
    (do i REALLY need to keep going?)

    nothing fancy, just a few hot glue guns for metal

    www.sicfabrications.com

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